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		<title>By: Is Burnsville&#8217;s Heart of the City Flat Lining? &#124; Bill Roehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Burnsville&#8217;s Heart of the City Flat Lining? &#124; Bill Roehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apparently some people feel that because the Mediterranean Cruise Cafe has been given a huge break to relocate from Eagan to Burnsville&#8217;s Heart of the City that we should applaud Kautz&#8217; hard work which she claims will lead to a huge uptick in tourism for Burnsville. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apparently some people feel that because the Mediterranean Cruise Cafe has been given a huge break to relocate from Eagan to Burnsville&#8217;s Heart of the City that we should applaud Kautz&#8217; hard work which she claims will lead to a huge uptick in tourism for Burnsville. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sank</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3267</link>
		<dc:creator>Sank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Kim well said. Congratulations on summing up 45 comments worth of content. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Kim well said. Congratulations on summing up 45 comments worth of content. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Roehl</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3266</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Roehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a good example of what I would like Apple Valley and other suburbs to be like would be the communities I grew up in in Ohio.  Specifically the neighboring communities of &lt;a HREF="http://www.blueash.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Blue Ash, Ohio&lt;/A&gt; and &lt;a HREF="http://www.ci.montgomery.oh.us" rel="nofollow"&gt;Montgomery, Ohio&lt;/A&gt;. 

 Not all suburbs are alike and wanting culture, variety, and convenience is not a pipe dream.  Blue Ash has been nationally recognized in magazines and books such as &lt;a HREF="http://www.blueash.com/filestorage/83/50-Fabulous-Places.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;50 Fabulous Places to Raise Your Family&lt;/A&gt; The communities have a symbiotic relationship, Blue Ash is where people work, Montgomery is where people live.

Some of the qualities I appreciate in a suburb include: 
true downtown
sidewalks
a sense of community
&lt;a HREF="http://www.montgomeryohio.org/discover/landmarks/landmarks.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;interesting and varied architecture&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;a HREF="http://www.blueash.com/content/87/195/287/default.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;large community events&lt;/A&gt; 
extensive recreation facilities 
top school system
art and  &lt;a HREF="http://www.blueash.com/content/87/195/1532/default.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;music events&lt;/A&gt;
the ability to have a large yard
sense of pride in condition of yard &#38; house

As I started thinking about what I like about my hometown I realized something I hadn’t ever really thought about before….think of any big box store you want.  I can’t think of a single one that is in the city limits of Blue Ash or Montgomery.  Target? No.  Walmart? No. Best Buy? No. Circuit City? No. Kohl’s No. Myers? No.  Not a single one.  Are they in the surrounding communities? Sure are.

Now as much as I’d love to find many of the qualities I list above in the next home we buy, for me a top school system trumps them all.  Do I think my hometown is perfect? Hell no. Public transit for instance simply does not exist there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a good example of what I would like Apple Valley and other suburbs to be like would be the communities I grew up in in Ohio.  Specifically the neighboring communities of <a href="http://www.blueash.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.blueash.com');">Blue Ash, Ohio</a> and <a href="http://www.ci.montgomery.oh.us" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.ci.montgomery.oh.us');">Montgomery, Ohio</a>. </p>
<p> Not all suburbs are alike and wanting culture, variety, and convenience is not a pipe dream.  Blue Ash has been nationally recognized in magazines and books such as <a href="http://www.blueash.com/filestorage/83/50-Fabulous-Places.pdf" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.blueash.com');">50 Fabulous Places to Raise Your Family</a> The communities have a symbiotic relationship, Blue Ash is where people work, Montgomery is where people live.</p>
<p>Some of the qualities I appreciate in a suburb include:<br />
true downtown<br />
sidewalks<br />
a sense of community<br />
<a href="http://www.montgomeryohio.org/discover/landmarks/landmarks.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.montgomeryohio.org');">interesting and varied architecture</a><br />
<a href="http://www.blueash.com/content/87/195/287/default.aspx" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.blueash.com');">large community events</a><br />
extensive recreation facilities<br />
top school system<br />
art and  <a href="http://www.blueash.com/content/87/195/1532/default.aspx" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.blueash.com');">music events</a><br />
the ability to have a large yard<br />
sense of pride in condition of yard &amp; house</p>
<p>As I started thinking about what I like about my hometown I realized something I hadn’t ever really thought about before….think of any big box store you want.  I can’t think of a single one that is in the city limits of Blue Ash or Montgomery.  Target? No.  Walmart? No. Best Buy? No. Circuit City? No. Kohl’s No. Myers? No.  Not a single one.  Are they in the surrounding communities? Sure are.</p>
<p>Now as much as I’d love to find many of the qualities I list above in the next home we buy, for me a top school system trumps them all.  Do I think my hometown is perfect? Hell no. Public transit for instance simply does not exist there.</p>
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		<title>By: MSPD</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3263</link>
		<dc:creator>MSPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sank, just one note on your post -- my son goes to Cedar Park elementary despite the fact that I can hit Echo Park E.S. with a well-hit tee shot from my front lawn (OK...maybe a drive and a wedge).

This is a complete tangent but the new magnet school program in District 196, which is what attracted us to CP over Echo Park, should be held up as a success story to stem the tide of of the things you are talking about.   I can't speak to things prior to this year, but I really appreciate the quality and direction of Cedar Park.  (In case you're interested, it's a Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) magnet).

Without getting into the details, we have recently had some very personal and unique interactions with the Cedar Park leadership and teachers concerning my son, and I feel incredibly blessed that my son is in their hands and confident in the education he is getting there.  They are doing some truly amazing things.  I look forward to sending my other son and daughter there when they become kindergarten age.

A lot of this change came about because of the participation of vocal community members.

OK...tangent over.   Thanks for the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sank, just one note on your post &#8212; my son goes to Cedar Park elementary despite the fact that I can hit Echo Park E.S. with a well-hit tee shot from my front lawn (OK&#8230;maybe a drive and a wedge).</p>
<p>This is a complete tangent but the new magnet school program in District 196, which is what attracted us to CP over Echo Park, should be held up as a success story to stem the tide of of the things you are talking about.   I can&#8217;t speak to things prior to this year, but I really appreciate the quality and direction of Cedar Park.  (In case you&#8217;re interested, it&#8217;s a Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) magnet).</p>
<p>Without getting into the details, we have recently had some very personal and unique interactions with the Cedar Park leadership and teachers concerning my son, and I feel incredibly blessed that my son is in their hands and confident in the education he is getting there.  They are doing some truly amazing things.  I look forward to sending my other son and daughter there when they become kindergarten age.</p>
<p>A lot of this change came about because of the participation of vocal community members.</p>
<p>OK&#8230;tangent over.   Thanks for the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sank</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3262</link>
		<dc:creator>Sank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THink of it as the Rosemount Target. It's going to draw from Rosemount and Farmington. Hey, that gives us a chance to "steal" tax dollars from those towns! 

'Tis all about the real estate deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THink of it as the Rosemount Target. It&#8217;s going to draw from Rosemount and Farmington. Hey, that gives us a chance to &#8220;steal&#8221; tax dollars from those towns! </p>
<p>&#8216;Tis all about the real estate deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3261</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it depends on how you go.  If you take CR-42 there's an additional traffic light at Diamond Path.

I won't be contributing anymore to this thread.  It's boring.  Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on how you go.  If you take CR-42 there&#8217;s an additional traffic light at Diamond Path.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be contributing anymore to this thread.  It&#8217;s boring.  Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: confused</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3260</link>
		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Target is at pilot knob and target is at shannon parkway.  There is one stop light between those roads.  

I didn't know people had wings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Target is at pilot knob and target is at shannon parkway.  There is one stop light between those roads.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know people had wings?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3259</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, they're 2.1232254 miles as the crow flies and the two Cub Foods, which you referenced as being "one stop light further" (which isn't true when we're being so specific) are 3.6114094 miles as the crow flies apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, they&#8217;re 2.1232254 miles as the crow flies and the two Cub Foods, which you referenced as being &#8220;one stop light further&#8221; (which isn&#8217;t true when we&#8217;re being so specific) are 3.6114094 miles as the crow flies apart.</p>
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		<title>By: confused</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3258</link>
		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the two apple valley targets are 2.8 miles apart (doesn't change you gripe but we should at least be accurate)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the two apple valley targets are 2.8 miles apart (doesn&#8217;t change you gripe but we should at least be accurate)</p>
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		<title>By: confused</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/burnsville-a-vacation-destination#comment-3257</link>
		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's be real here.   The Cub in AV/Rosemount is exaclty one stop light farther away from each other than the two AV targets.  At least with the new AV Target is pulling in Roseount $$.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be real here.   The Cub in AV/Rosemount is exaclty one stop light farther away from each other than the two AV targets.  At least with the new AV Target is pulling in Roseount $$.</p>
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