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	<title>Comments on: Forged School Parking Passes Result in Felony?!</title>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111657</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the one hand, making counterfeit anything is wrong, however I don&#039;t think criminal charges should have been brought for making parking passes. Sheesh, make him refund the money. Do they sill have out of school suspension these days? Or is it straight to court?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand, making counterfeit anything is wrong, however I don&#8217;t think criminal charges should have been brought for making parking passes. Sheesh, make him refund the money. Do they sill have out of school suspension these days? Or is it straight to court?</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111526</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From today&#039;s Star Tribune:

Backstrom added that he suspects the teens didn&#039;t know felony charges could ensue from the activities they are accused of, and that it&#039;s possible they could be eligible for a court-diversion program for first offenders. Participating in the program would spare them from criminal records if they accept responsibility and the consequences.

From lefty:

I think the kid that told the police, &quot;You got nothing on me.&quot;  needs to change his tune.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From today&#8217;s Star Tribune:</p>
<p>Backstrom added that he suspects the teens didn&#8217;t know felony charges could ensue from the activities they are accused of, and that it&#8217;s possible they could be eligible for a court-diversion program for first offenders. Participating in the program would spare them from criminal records if they accept responsibility and the consequences.</p>
<p>From lefty:</p>
<p>I think the kid that told the police, &#8220;You got nothing on me.&#8221;  needs to change his tune.</p>
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		<title>By: bb stacker</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111406</link>
		<dc:creator>bb stacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my take is i don&#039;t care about the &#039;lost revenue&#039; for the school or the cost of parking.  it&#039;s your basic right from wrong.  this product of our society (moron) knew he was wrong making the parking passes and charging his class mates $$.  it is a felony and i hope he gets his a-- handed to him.  however, i do hope he learns a lesson and gets a reduced charge, which will happen.


bb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my take is i don&#8217;t care about the &#8216;lost revenue&#8217; for the school or the cost of parking.  it&#8217;s your basic right from wrong.  this product of our society (moron) knew he was wrong making the parking passes and charging his class mates $$.  it is a felony and i hope he gets his a&#8211; handed to him.  however, i do hope he learns a lesson and gets a reduced charge, which will happen.</p>
<p>bb</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm...I didn&#039;t think AMC Gremlins got that good of gas mileage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;I didn&#8217;t think AMC Gremlins got that good of gas mileage.
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		<title>By: Kassie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My high school didn&#039;t have nearly the spaces in the parking lot for all the kids, so charging for parking was one way to deal with the demand. Also, we had a complicated lottery where you got points based on your need for parking. Car pools got extra points. I never had a car, but always paid for part of the permit of people who gave me rides to school.

And we had a police officer at school at all times. And we had a need for it. This was 15 years ago and I imagine the need is even greater now. Gangs, fights, drugs, child abuse, and theft were just some of the things going on in my suburban school on a regular basis. For a while car stereos were being stolen every day, so they gave the parking lot attendant a video camera to help catch the thieves. Within two days she was assaulted and the video camera stolen too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My high school didn&#8217;t have nearly the spaces in the parking lot for all the kids, so charging for parking was one way to deal with the demand. Also, we had a complicated lottery where you got points based on your need for parking. Car pools got extra points. I never had a car, but always paid for part of the permit of people who gave me rides to school.</p>
<p>And we had a police officer at school at all times. And we had a need for it. This was 15 years ago and I imagine the need is even greater now. Gangs, fights, drugs, child abuse, and theft were just some of the things going on in my suburban school on a regular basis. For a while car stereos were being stolen every day, so they gave the parking lot attendant a video camera to help catch the thieves. Within two days she was assaulted and the video camera stolen too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mikeh,

My tank in HS was 12 gallons (still is) and back then I could easily get 3 months of driving two and from school on one tank.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikeh,</p>
<p>My tank in HS was 12 gallons (still is) and back then I could easily get 3 months of driving two and from school on one tank.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at the statute, it does appear the youth was charged appropriately.  I highly suggest getting a lawyer, a good one.  If a first offense, the student should be able to work with the prosecuting attorney to get the charges reduced or held pending 1 or 2 years of good behavior with no similar charge.  Then if no similar charge occurs, this charge will be dismissed, thus never appear on his record.

I agree the dollar amount is inflated, but that&#039;s the way it always is with such things.  Record companies still feel they were loosing millions of dollars to people using per-to-per systems to pull their songs down.  The legal system doesn&#039;t recognize that just because you have it for free, doesn&#039;t mean you would have paid money for it had free not been an option.

There is always an alternative to parking some where you are not legally allowed to be.  With the clearest alternative that you simply don&#039;t drive to school, i know, shocking.

I think that charging for parking permits is ridiculous, but I can see the point.  If you can afford to drive a car, you need to be able to afford the costs that go along with the car.  $125 seems steep, I&#039;d set it more to about 2 tanks of gas, figure a 17 gallon tank at $3.50/gal.  Well, that&#039;s about $120, so maybe it isn&#039;t so steep.

When I started attending Rosemount high School in 1984 there were no fees. By the time I graduated in 1986 there were fees.  You would think school systems would promote a car pool system, but they don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the statute, it does appear the youth was charged appropriately.  I highly suggest getting a lawyer, a good one.  If a first offense, the student should be able to work with the prosecuting attorney to get the charges reduced or held pending 1 or 2 years of good behavior with no similar charge.  Then if no similar charge occurs, this charge will be dismissed, thus never appear on his record.</p>
<p>I agree the dollar amount is inflated, but that&#8217;s the way it always is with such things.  Record companies still feel they were loosing millions of dollars to people using per-to-per systems to pull their songs down.  The legal system doesn&#8217;t recognize that just because you have it for free, doesn&#8217;t mean you would have paid money for it had free not been an option.</p>
<p>There is always an alternative to parking some where you are not legally allowed to be.  With the clearest alternative that you simply don&#8217;t drive to school, i know, shocking.</p>
<p>I think that charging for parking permits is ridiculous, but I can see the point.  If you can afford to drive a car, you need to be able to afford the costs that go along with the car.  $125 seems steep, I&#8217;d set it more to about 2 tanks of gas, figure a 17 gallon tank at $3.50/gal.  Well, that&#8217;s about $120, so maybe it isn&#8217;t so steep.</p>
<p>When I started attending Rosemount high School in 1984 there were no fees. By the time I graduated in 1986 there were fees.  You would think school systems would promote a car pool system, but they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Lefty--the school is in Mendota Heights, not WSP.  MH&#039;s finest would be prosecuting.  (Sibley moved to MH in 1972 and WSP is STILL trying to claim ownership...).  I don&#039;t know if things have changed socially there since the mid-80&#039;s, but back then, one simply did not ride the bus after 10th grade.  Very.  Socially.  Unacceptable.

That being said, I never had trouble finding a spot, but then again, I wasn&#039;t running in the door at 8:14 either...

As far as &#039;overfow&#039; or &#039;offsite&#039; parking--I&#039;m not sure if parking is still allowed on both sides of Warrior Drive now that there&#039;s housing there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lefty&#8211;the school is in Mendota Heights, not WSP.  MH&#8217;s finest would be prosecuting.  (Sibley moved to MH in 1972 and WSP is STILL trying to claim ownership&#8230;).  I don&#8217;t know if things have changed socially there since the mid-80&#8242;s, but back then, one simply did not ride the bus after 10th grade.  Very.  Socially.  Unacceptable.</p>
<p>That being said, I never had trouble finding a spot, but then again, I wasn&#8217;t running in the door at 8:14 either&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as &#8216;overfow&#8217; or &#8216;offsite&#8217; parking&#8211;I&#8217;m not sure if parking is still allowed on both sides of Warrior Drive now that there&#8217;s housing there.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is fine to charge for parking, especially when the spots are limited at the school.  At Eagan, the seniors and juniors have first dibs on paying for spots and the rest of the people who either don&#039;t get a chance to pay or don&#039;t want to pay just park at the loser lot over at Northview Park for free and walk a bit.

I suppose there is a case for seniority to award free parking passes, but I suspect the revenue is so ingrained to the school budget by now it will never happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is fine to charge for parking, especially when the spots are limited at the school.  At Eagan, the seniors and juniors have first dibs on paying for spots and the rest of the people who either don&#8217;t get a chance to pay or don&#8217;t want to pay just park at the loser lot over at Northview Park for free and walk a bit.</p>
<p>I suppose there is a case for seniority to award free parking passes, but I suspect the revenue is so ingrained to the school budget by now it will never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joey, 

Students are mandated by law to go to secondary school and many do not provide transportation for students in certain areas, especially at the HS level. I think if they are going to mandate you be there and not provide transportation they should allow free parking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey, </p>
<p>Students are mandated by law to go to secondary school and many do not provide transportation for students in certain areas, especially at the HS level. I think if they are going to mandate you be there and not provide transportation they should allow free parking.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$125/semester seems steep for parking, though I paid at least that much for parking in college so I guess it&#039;s preparation for the future. &quot;Nothing comes free in life&quot; is a lesson that comes earlier and earlier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$125/semester seems steep for parking, though I paid at least that much for parking in college so I guess it&#8217;s preparation for the future. &#8220;Nothing comes free in life&#8221; is a lesson that comes earlier and earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Alissa</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111391</link>
		<dc:creator>Alissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, is it a felony to forge hall passes too? Or just things that involve money? Lunch passes? I suppose those are scan cards now. Anyhow, I don&#039;t understand what part of this makes it a felony...

Sometimes I feel bad for teens these days. Maybe this is part of why people don&#039;t grow up until they&#039;re at least 30 now...they are so over-policed that they can&#039;t get the stupid out of their systems in time to behave like adults when they&#039;re supposed to! Too much threat to their &quot;futures&quot; to step out of line at all.  Ah, fond memories of  screeching out of the BHS parking lot with the parking lot monitor (not a cop) yelling at us out of his car window...those were the days. 

I&#039;m a law-abiding citizen now, and pay for the things I&#039;m supposed to pay for, but I still think that this is totally ridiculous and just another case of freelance tax-collecting (it seems we use law enforcement for that a lot these days!). This kid deserves a slap on the wrist, a congrats for his business ingenuity, and a little constructive redirection; not a ruined future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is it a felony to forge hall passes too? Or just things that involve money? Lunch passes? I suppose those are scan cards now. Anyhow, I don&#8217;t understand what part of this makes it a felony&#8230;</p>
<p>Sometimes I feel bad for teens these days. Maybe this is part of why people don&#8217;t grow up until they&#8217;re at least 30 now&#8230;they are so over-policed that they can&#8217;t get the stupid out of their systems in time to behave like adults when they&#8217;re supposed to! Too much threat to their &#8220;futures&#8221; to step out of line at all.  Ah, fond memories of  screeching out of the BHS parking lot with the parking lot monitor (not a cop) yelling at us out of his car window&#8230;those were the days. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a law-abiding citizen now, and pay for the things I&#8217;m supposed to pay for, but I still think that this is totally ridiculous and just another case of freelance tax-collecting (it seems we use law enforcement for that a lot these days!). This kid deserves a slap on the wrist, a congrats for his business ingenuity, and a little constructive redirection; not a ruined future.</p>
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		<title>By: Closet Carnivore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closet Carnivore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lefty, 

I wasn&#039;t aware there was a lot / parking alternative. Still, my point was more that the $1500 school loss is hypothetical (I agree with what Bill says in the post... it is unlikely they would have purchased a pass at all). In the same way, the fact that they would have taken the bus is not necessarily true, but it could have been. Just doing my part to fight bad logic with more bad logic. 

Closet Carnivore]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lefty, </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware there was a lot / parking alternative. Still, my point was more that the $1500 school loss is hypothetical (I agree with what Bill says in the post&#8230; it is unlikely they would have purchased a pass at all). In the same way, the fact that they would have taken the bus is not necessarily true, but it could have been. Just doing my part to fight bad logic with more bad logic. </p>
<p>Closet Carnivore</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111382</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Closet Carnivore,

Why couldn&#039;t they just drive their cars and park elsewhere?

lefty]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closet Carnivore,</p>
<p>Why couldn&#8217;t they just drive their cars and park elsewhere?</p>
<p>lefty</p>
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		<title>By: Closet Carnivore</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111381</link>
		<dc:creator>Closet Carnivore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the school should have to factor in the money they saved in wear and tear on the big yellow bus against the &quot;$1500&quot; they lost (these kids would have had to get to school somehow).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the school should have to factor in the money they saved in wear and tear on the big yellow bus against the &#8220;$1500&#8243; they lost (these kids would have had to get to school somehow).</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111380</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happened to the honorable days where the small time criminals (the people who purchased the passes) lawyer up before they give up the kingpins who made them?  If you want to do the crime, be prepared to do the time, or in this instance, buy a real pass.

The Ritter guy is the guy they want.  His story is almost credible with the exception that he is alleged to have personally sold two of the passes.  Oliver is the fall guy in this grand scheme.  The patsy as it were.

Years from now, after the West St. Paul government has invested millions of dollars to uncover the multiple tentacles of Ritter&#039;s criminal endeavors, finally identifying him as the mastermind behind the West St. Paul crime wave of 2021, the police will stumble upon this parking pass situation and figure out it could have been prevented ten years ago if they just had interrogated Oliver a bit more.

Free Oliver!
Free the WSP1!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the honorable days where the small time criminals (the people who purchased the passes) lawyer up before they give up the kingpins who made them?  If you want to do the crime, be prepared to do the time, or in this instance, buy a real pass.</p>
<p>The Ritter guy is the guy they want.  His story is almost credible with the exception that he is alleged to have personally sold two of the passes.  Oliver is the fall guy in this grand scheme.  The patsy as it were.</p>
<p>Years from now, after the West St. Paul government has invested millions of dollars to uncover the multiple tentacles of Ritter&#8217;s criminal endeavors, finally identifying him as the mastermind behind the West St. Paul crime wave of 2021, the police will stumble upon this parking pass situation and figure out it could have been prevented ten years ago if they just had interrogated Oliver a bit more.</p>
<p>Free Oliver!<br />
Free the WSP1!</p>
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		<title>By: Dez</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111378</link>
		<dc:creator>Dez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah! They&#039;re using the RIAA&#039;s thought process for lost income. It didn&#039;t make sense for them either.

Although what the kid did was pretty stupid, the charge seems pretty ridiculous.    
Even impersonating an officer is considered a misdemeanor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! They&#8217;re using the RIAA&#8217;s thought process for lost income. It didn&#8217;t make sense for them either.</p>
<p>Although what the kid did was pretty stupid, the charge seems pretty ridiculous.<br />
Even impersonating an officer is considered a misdemeanor.</p>
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		<title>By: jorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Light somebody&#039;s pet on fire and get a misdemeanor. This? A felony.
Fuck me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light somebody&#8217;s pet on fire and get a misdemeanor. This? A felony.<br />
Fuck me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111376</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Who could call that justice?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A high school resource officer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who could call that justice?</p></blockquote>
<p>A high school resource officer.</p>
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		<title>By: Chapter&#38;Verse</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/forged-school-parking-passes-result-in-felony#comment-111374</link>
		<dc:creator>Chapter&#38;Verse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone find MSPD&#039;s meds, or hide his booze.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone find MSPD&#8217;s meds, or hide his booze.  :-)</p>
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