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	<title>Comments on: Hmong Village: St. Paul, MN</title>
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		<title>By: Chick-fil-A: Do You Want Your City Banning Them? &#124; Bill Roehl</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-244050</link>
		<dc:creator>Chick-fil-A: Do You Want Your City Banning Them? &#124; Bill Roehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and I have pointed out that I am disgusted with private businesses (such as Chick-fil-A and Hmong Village) who make their anti-gay marriage stances. However, the recent statements made by the mayors of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and I have pointed out that I am disgusted with private businesses (such as Chick-fil-A and Hmong Village) who make their anti-gay marriage stances. However, the recent statements made by the mayors of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MSPD</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-238148</link>
		<dc:creator>MSPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your not patronizing the renters of the owner thinking they will eventually go out of business or move and the owner will eventually figure out the single political stance was a contributing factor is a very passive approach.

BTW I intentionally didn&#039;t say &quot;passive-aggressive&quot;. 

Continue to patronize good folks that don&#039;t support the bigotry and empower them and encourage them to stand up to the owner (in addition to communicating with the owner directly).  A blanket &quot;I won&#039;t go there now&quot; does nothing in this case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your not patronizing the renters of the owner thinking they will eventually go out of business or move and the owner will eventually figure out the single political stance was a contributing factor is a very passive approach.</p>
<p>BTW I intentionally didn&#8217;t say &#8220;passive-aggressive&#8221;. </p>
<p>Continue to patronize good folks that don&#8217;t support the bigotry and empower them and encourage them to stand up to the owner (in addition to communicating with the owner directly).  A blanket &#8220;I won&#8217;t go there now&#8221; does nothing in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-237922</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me? Passive aggressive? Please. As I have stated in other online forums regarding related topics in the news recently, I never have any problems contacting the groups I feel are doing a disservice to this country, Hmong Village&#039;s management included.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me? Passive aggressive? Please. As I have stated in other online forums regarding related topics in the news recently, I never have any problems contacting the groups I feel are doing a disservice to this country, Hmong Village&#8217;s management included.</p>
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		<title>By: MSPD</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-237919</link>
		<dc:creator>MSPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of passively protesting through a third party, why don&#039;t you just contact the Market owner and tell them straight up?  They should hear directly why you are going to stop patronizing their renters.  

Those businesses are already scraping by on almost nothing. If they go belly up, nobody is going to connect it to the consequences of a stupid political position and they certainly aren&#039;t going to join forces and revolt when they have no other way of making a living.  There aren t exactly dozens of places a Hmong takeout will have enough demand to thrive on a standalone basis.

Your intent is noble but I think your actions are meaningless at best.

p.s. You know it but for the benefit of the masses....I don&#039;t support the amendment either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of passively protesting through a third party, why don&#8217;t you just contact the Market owner and tell them straight up?  They should hear directly why you are going to stop patronizing their renters.  </p>
<p>Those businesses are already scraping by on almost nothing. If they go belly up, nobody is going to connect it to the consequences of a stupid political position and they certainly aren&#8217;t going to join forces and revolt when they have no other way of making a living.  There aren t exactly dozens of places a Hmong takeout will have enough demand to thrive on a standalone basis.</p>
<p>Your intent is noble but I think your actions are meaningless at best.</p>
<p>p.s. You know it but for the benefit of the masses&#8230;.I don&#8217;t support the amendment either.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-237838</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MSPD, by putting pressure on the individual storefront owners you then put much more pressure on the building owner. 

They start noticing that their clientele and revenues are dropping and they may:

&lt;ul&gt;1. Start bitching to the ownership to change their public political ploys.

2. Go out of business and can&#039;t pay rent which in turn affects the ownership.

3. Move to a new location.&lt;/ul&gt;

There must be consequences to political action by business and the best way to affect change is to not support businesses which support stupidity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSPD, by putting pressure on the individual storefront owners you then put much more pressure on the building owner. </p>
<p>They start noticing that their clientele and revenues are dropping and they may:</p>
<ul>1. Start bitching to the ownership to change their public political ploys.</p>
<p>2. Go out of business and can&#8217;t pay rent which in turn affects the ownership.</p>
<p>3. Move to a new location.</ul>
<p>There must be consequences to political action by business and the best way to affect change is to not support businesses which support stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: MSPD</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-237837</link>
		<dc:creator>MSPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if individual businesses who rent space in the Hmong Village Shopping Center are opposed?

This could be one of those situations where the strip mall owner/property owner puts up political signs that the individual stores themselves don&#039;t support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if individual businesses who rent space in the Hmong Village Shopping Center are opposed?</p>
<p>This could be one of those situations where the strip mall owner/property owner puts up political signs that the individual stores themselves don&#8217;t support.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-237832</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Genadek is from Mendota Hts.  Not that I need landscaping right now, but fuck them too.

The best part of that link is when you click on the link to see who is out there on the No side.  It must be 25-1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genadek is from Mendota Hts.  Not that I need landscaping right now, but fuck them too.</p>
<p>The best part of that link is when you click on the link to see who is out there on the No side.  It must be 25-1.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-237828</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I won&#039;t be returning to Hmong Village now: http://t.co/ni1DeDIe (emphasis mine):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Companies That Support the Marriage Amendment

Bethel World Outreach Church, Inc.
Genadek Landscaping and Excavating, Inc.
&lt;b&gt;Hmong Village Shopping Center&lt;/b&gt;
Northland Counseling Services
Radio Bendicíon
Solid Rock Ministries, Inc.
Spanish Now
The Marden at Rivers Edge&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I won&#8217;t be returning to Hmong Village now: <a href="http://t.co/ni1DeDIe">http://t.co/ni1DeDIe</a> (emphasis mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>Companies That Support the Marriage Amendment</p>
<p>Bethel World Outreach Church, Inc.<br />
Genadek Landscaping and Excavating, Inc.<br />
<b>Hmong Village Shopping Center</b><br />
Northland Counseling Services<br />
Radio Bendicíon<br />
Solid Rock Ministries, Inc.<br />
Spanish Now<br />
The Marden at Rivers Edge</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: 2010 Lazy Lightning Restaurant Reviews/Rankings &#124; Bill Roehl</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-80641</link>
		<dc:creator>2010 Lazy Lightning Restaurant Reviews/Rankings &#124; Bill Roehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Corner Table 2. Fogo de Chao 3. Sea Salt Eatery (seasonal) 3. World Street Kitchen (seasonal) 5. Hmong Village 5. Runyon&#8217;s 5. Destiny Cafe 8. Kabobs Indian Grill 8. Flamingo 10. Pizza [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Corner Table 2. Fogo de Chao 3. Sea Salt Eatery (seasonal) 3. World Street Kitchen (seasonal) 5. Hmong Village 5. Runyon&#8217;s 5. Destiny Cafe 8. Kabobs Indian Grill 8. Flamingo 10. Pizza [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mulch</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-79174</link>
		<dc:creator>mulch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great one Bill, have heard about it , but your review clinches my definite visit. 

I dont know much about Hmong origins, but i think they are peoples that inhabit parts of indochina over to Northern Thailand and into the highlands of 
Cambodia and Vietnam... i was in northern Thailand once and had some interesting foods... very different than traditional Thai food... and the traditional clothing up there is similar to what i see some older Hmong people wearing here. 

Well done sir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great one Bill, have heard about it , but your review clinches my definite visit. </p>
<p>I dont know much about Hmong origins, but i think they are peoples that inhabit parts of indochina over to Northern Thailand and into the highlands of<br />
Cambodia and Vietnam&#8230; i was in northern Thailand once and had some interesting foods&#8230; very different than traditional Thai food&#8230; and the traditional clothing up there is similar to what i see some older Hmong people wearing here. </p>
<p>Well done sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Nou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It IS crazy busy on the weekends and parking can be pain so weekdays are ideal.  You&#039;ve got to try the beef short ribs and drunken noodles at Nang Kwok.  It&#039;s towards the north end of food avenue.  Enjoy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It IS crazy busy on the weekends and parking can be pain so weekdays are ideal.  You&#8217;ve got to try the beef short ribs and drunken noodles at Nang Kwok.  It&#8217;s towards the north end of food avenue.  Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/hmong-village-st-paul-mn#comment-79096</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chad, my coworker who eats there several times a week warned that weekends are crazy busy. Good luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad, my coworker who eats there several times a week warned that weekends are crazy busy. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great review Bill.  I am hoping to meet a friend down there on Saturday for lunch.  

A few points on the Hmong/Vietnam.  I am not sure, but I think in most cases the Hmong were regarded as our allies in Vietnam and were actually persecuted before and after our involvement because of their fight against communist North Vietnam (China).  

My father, and many of his friends, served in Viet Nam, and I am profoundly grateful for the service of all the men and women in the military, both then and now.

IMO &quot;We Were Soldiers&quot; is an incredible book about the early days in Viet Nam, and does cover some of the French involvement which predates ours by some 20 years.  As noted, the whole region has been in conflict, not for decades or centuries, but for 1000&#039;s of years.  I have been told by someone who was there that parts of the book are incredibly accurate.

For those who are interested, there is also a book written by a gentleman I know, that details his experience in Viet Nam.  Its not glamourous, and will probably make you question our involvement, but it is an interesting/accurate portrayal from an &quot;amateur&quot; author, about his time in Viet Nam.  Its called &quot;We Were the Third Herd&quot; by Richard F Hogue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review Bill.  I am hoping to meet a friend down there on Saturday for lunch.  </p>
<p>A few points on the Hmong/Vietnam.  I am not sure, but I think in most cases the Hmong were regarded as our allies in Vietnam and were actually persecuted before and after our involvement because of their fight against communist North Vietnam (China).  </p>
<p>My father, and many of his friends, served in Viet Nam, and I am profoundly grateful for the service of all the men and women in the military, both then and now.</p>
<p>IMO &#8220;We Were Soldiers&#8221; is an incredible book about the early days in Viet Nam, and does cover some of the French involvement which predates ours by some 20 years.  As noted, the whole region has been in conflict, not for decades or centuries, but for 1000&#8242;s of years.  I have been told by someone who was there that parts of the book are incredibly accurate.</p>
<p>For those who are interested, there is also a book written by a gentleman I know, that details his experience in Viet Nam.  Its not glamourous, and will probably make you question our involvement, but it is an interesting/accurate portrayal from an &#8220;amateur&#8221; author, about his time in Viet Nam.  Its called &#8220;We Were the Third Herd&#8221; by Richard F Hogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Berkson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Berkson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank g-d you found something hot enough for your taste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank g-d you found something hot enough for your taste.</p>
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		<title>By: CH Minneapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>CH Minneapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I consider myself a pretty adventurous eater and I love ethnic food but I&#039;ve got to admit I&#039;ve never even tried Hmong food.  I really enjoy the Midtown Global Market in Minneapolis and the Hmong Village in St. Paul sounds like a similar experience.  I&#039;ll have to check it out this winter.  Thanks for the great tip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself a pretty adventurous eater and I love ethnic food but I&#8217;ve got to admit I&#8217;ve never even tried Hmong food.  I really enjoy the Midtown Global Market in Minneapolis and the Hmong Village in St. Paul sounds like a similar experience.  I&#8217;ll have to check it out this winter.  Thanks for the great tip.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And bb, another thought, because I&#039;m thinking of my future DIL teaching in Chicago&#039;s inner city:  is this what we&#039;re doing to our own?  Is this all they are going to know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And bb, another thought, because I&#8217;m thinking of my future DIL teaching in Chicago&#8217;s inner city:  is this what we&#8217;re doing to our own?  Is this all they are going to know?</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, bb, I stand corrected.  Once again, couldn&#039;t wrap my words around.  It was extremely emotional.  There was a bagpiper in a kilt walking back and forth, playing &quot;Amazing Grace.&quot;  One of my best friends lost her brother there, and I attended the closed casket funeral at a relatively young age, seeing her grief and never understanding.  My own brothers-in-law went, and they were never the same when they came home.  My husband enlisted to go (before I met him), but the class before his was the last class to go.

You&#039;re absolutely right; we CAN&#039;T understand.  That&#039;s why I am awed by the Asians who come here, live next door to born enemies, and just keep going.  How do you do that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, bb, I stand corrected.  Once again, couldn&#8217;t wrap my words around.  It was extremely emotional.  There was a bagpiper in a kilt walking back and forth, playing &#8220;Amazing Grace.&#8221;  One of my best friends lost her brother there, and I attended the closed casket funeral at a relatively young age, seeing her grief and never understanding.  My own brothers-in-law went, and they were never the same when they came home.  My husband enlisted to go (before I met him), but the class before his was the last class to go.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right; we CAN&#8217;T understand.  That&#8217;s why I am awed by the Asians who come here, live next door to born enemies, and just keep going.  How do you do that?</p>
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		<title>By: bb stacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb stacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whoops,


bb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops,</p>
<p>bb</p>
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		<title>By: bb stacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb stacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[michele,

fyi, it&#039;s not the vietnamese war wall in washington, it&#039;s the  Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall.  i wear a KIA bracelet remembering a SP4 on panel 2w/L55, at the time one of 58,191 kia&#039;s.  the number  has increased by a few over the years, still very sad. 

a good read is Hell in a Very Small PLace, what the US inherited from our french brothers.

when you have s.e. asian generations born, raised and die in conflict, being the only life you know, what chance if any, would you or i understand what&#039;s going on &#039;over there&#039; let alone the military trying to fight a &#039;real war&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michele,</p>
<p>fyi, it&#8217;s not the vietnamese war wall in washington, it&#8217;s the  Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall.  i wear a KIA bracelet remembering a SP4 on panel 2w/L55, at the time one of 58,191 kia&#8217;s.  the number  has increased by a few over the years, still very sad. </p>
<p>a good read is Hell in a Very Small PLace, what the US inherited from our french brothers.</p>
<p>when you have s.e. asian generations born, raised and die in conflict, being the only life you know, what chance if any, would you or i understand what&#8217;s going on &#8216;over there&#8217; let alone the military trying to fight a &#8216;real war&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess it&#039;s possible, when we consider the enormous spans of time encompassing Asian history.

That reminds me of when my husband and I visited the visiting Vietnamese War wall up at the Capitol several years ago.  My husband was studying a time line of Vietnamese history, and he wondered, &quot;How did we ever think we could win a war with these people?  The Chinese fought them for a thousand years, and they couldn&#039;t beat them.&quot;

A thousand years of territorial wars.  I can&#039;t even grasp it.

As to prohibiting a language, there are examples of it happening in history.  The native dialect of Alsace, France, for example, was outlawed by both the French and the Germans, when either held the province, so the influence of the other would be annihilated.

Could it be possible that the Hmong language had ties to a society to which some reigning Chinese dynasty objected?  

Ha, wrap your mind around THAT sentence and tell me that English shouldn&#039;t be prohibited, at least for some of us.  :  )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s possible, when we consider the enormous spans of time encompassing Asian history.</p>
<p>That reminds me of when my husband and I visited the visiting Vietnamese War wall up at the Capitol several years ago.  My husband was studying a time line of Vietnamese history, and he wondered, &#8220;How did we ever think we could win a war with these people?  The Chinese fought them for a thousand years, and they couldn&#8217;t beat them.&#8221;</p>
<p>A thousand years of territorial wars.  I can&#8217;t even grasp it.</p>
<p>As to prohibiting a language, there are examples of it happening in history.  The native dialect of Alsace, France, for example, was outlawed by both the French and the Germans, when either held the province, so the influence of the other would be annihilated.</p>
<p>Could it be possible that the Hmong language had ties to a society to which some reigning Chinese dynasty objected?  </p>
<p>Ha, wrap your mind around THAT sentence and tell me that English shouldn&#8217;t be prohibited, at least for some of us.  :  )</p>
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