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		<title>By: Mikeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not too many posts because many agree with what&#039;s already been stated.  The police officers are in the wrong.  The Police department is in the wrong.  So what does someone do next other than go to court.  How many times do police officers need to be slapped and told that the law is this, so enforce that law.  Probably as many times as they&#039;ll pretend you never told them that, so they can pick whatever law they want.  I really don&#039;t know why this crap is allowed, yet it is.  All you good police officers out there, this police department is making you all look very bad.  Why don&#039;t you do something about that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too many posts because many agree with what&#8217;s already been stated.  The police officers are in the wrong.  The Police department is in the wrong.  So what does someone do next other than go to court.  How many times do police officers need to be slapped and told that the law is this, so enforce that law.  Probably as many times as they&#8217;ll pretend you never told them that, so they can pick whatever law they want.  I really don&#8217;t know why this crap is allowed, yet it is.  All you good police officers out there, this police department is making you all look very bad.  Why don&#8217;t you do something about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/police-steal-citizens-camera-claim-its-evidence#comment-387754</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty easy to tell if videos have been deleted.  I&#039;d hire a forensic expert and follow up.  Unfortunately - I don&#039;t trust police.  Wish it wasn&#039;t that way and try to see the other side - but can&#039;t.  Just hear too many stories and I&#039;d rather be wary than a victim.  The response to this from cops is &quot;Yeah - hate us till you need us.&quot;  That&#039;s right!  I don&#039;t trust you.  I will call you if my house is robbed because THAT&#039;S YOUR JOB - DUMMY!  If you don&#039;t like it - find a new profession.  The alternative is that I hunt down the person that robbed my house and likely break laws myself.  So - I&#039;m left with no alternative but to call you.  The fact that I don&#039;t trust you is irrelevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty easy to tell if videos have been deleted.  I&#8217;d hire a forensic expert and follow up.  Unfortunately &#8211; I don&#8217;t trust police.  Wish it wasn&#8217;t that way and try to see the other side &#8211; but can&#8217;t.  Just hear too many stories and I&#8217;d rather be wary than a victim.  The response to this from cops is &#8220;Yeah &#8211; hate us till you need us.&#8221;  That&#8217;s right!  I don&#8217;t trust you.  I will call you if my house is robbed because THAT&#8217;S YOUR JOB &#8211; DUMMY!  If you don&#8217;t like it &#8211; find a new profession.  The alternative is that I hunt down the person that robbed my house and likely break laws myself.  So &#8211; I&#8217;m left with no alternative but to call you.  The fact that I don&#8217;t trust you is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/police-steal-citizens-camera-claim-its-evidence#comment-387742</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sort of sad to see this wasn&#039;t more popular. We&#039;re watching our rights erode away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of sad to see this wasn&#8217;t more popular. We&#8217;re watching our rights erode away.</p>
<p> <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-387742" src="http://www.lazylightning.org/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_16_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('387742', 'add', 'www.lazylightning.org/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_16_');" title="I like this comment" /> <span id="karma-387742-up" style="font-size:14px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-387742" src="http://www.lazylightning.org/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_16_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('387742', 'subtract', 'www.lazylightning.org/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_16_')" title="This comment is inappropriate and should be hidden" /> <span id="karma-387742-down" style="font-size:14px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/police-steal-citizens-camera-claim-its-evidence#comment-387422</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first time I read the article, all I could think about was the two cops in the original &quot;The Hangover&quot; movie who got their car stolen and were trying to save face by acting all bad ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time I read the article, all I could think about was the two cops in the original &#8220;The Hangover&#8221; movie who got their car stolen and were trying to save face by acting all bad ass.</p>
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		<title>By: MSPD</title>
		<link>http://www.lazylightning.org/police-steal-citizens-camera-claim-its-evidence#comment-387406</link>
		<dc:creator>MSPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the most shocking thing about this whole situation is finding out that Little Canada has a police force.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Technically not a &quot;police force&quot;...the proper term is &quot;Little Mounties&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think the most shocking thing about this whole situation is finding out that Little Canada has a police force.</p></blockquote>
<p>Technically not a &#8220;police force&#8221;&#8230;the proper term is &#8220;Little Mounties&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
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		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the most shocking thing about this whole situation is finding out that Little Canada has a police force.

Isn&#039;t the extent of the whole city just a 3 mile stretch of Rice street between 694 and 36?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most shocking thing about this whole situation is finding out that Little Canada has a police force.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the extent of the whole city just a 3 mile stretch of Rice street between 694 and 36?</p>
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		<title>By: MSPD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I&#039;m not going to make the leap to a national Police State.  But....

I almost spit my coffee all over the place with laughter when I read &quot;Data privacy HIPAA violation&quot;.  The Pioneer Press covered that angle.  F**king ridiculous.

What can you really say here?  It&#039;s pretty clear these officers need a good refresher training IF we are getting an accurate portrayal of the situation.   

I am often shooting (still photos) police officers doing their jobs and I&#039;ve had incredibly positive interactions with most (neutral with the rest).  This includes both local (Minneapolis and St. Paul police mostly) and a number of different situations in places like Washington DC.  What these guys (Little Canada) are really doing is making their department look stupid in comparison to the profession.

I hope this guy presses the issue.  I would especially be interested to see him take his camera to a data recovery company.  I&#039;m mostly familiar with digital still photos (DSLR), but I understand it&#039;s pretty easy to retrieve &quot;deleted&quot; files.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>OK, I&#8217;m not going to make the leap to a national Police State.  But&#8230;.</p>
<p>I almost spit my coffee all over the place with laughter when I read &#8220;Data privacy HIPAA violation&#8221;.  The Pioneer Press covered that angle.  F**king ridiculous.</p>
<p>What can you really say here?  It&#8217;s pretty clear these officers need a good refresher training IF we are getting an accurate portrayal of the situation.   </p>
<p>I am often shooting (still photos) police officers doing their jobs and I&#8217;ve had incredibly positive interactions with most (neutral with the rest).  This includes both local (Minneapolis and St. Paul police mostly) and a number of different situations in places like Washington DC.  What these guys (Little Canada) are really doing is making their department look stupid in comparison to the profession.</p>
<p>I hope this guy presses the issue.  I would especially be interested to see him take his camera to a data recovery company.  I&#8217;m mostly familiar with digital still photos (DSLR), but I understand it&#8217;s pretty easy to retrieve &#8220;deleted&#8221; files.</p>
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		<title>By: NW Rochester Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>NW Rochester Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am surprised this is news.  This type of police misconduct happens all the time.  Many cops are bullies that feel they got mistreated as kids and now are going to get even with the world.  They know they are never going to be held to the same laws that they claim to enforce.  

Examples?

The cops that violated the data privacy laws got a verbal warning.  

The cop that was left alone in a cell with a man that was arrested with his step daughter and after leaving the cell, the handcuffed man was laying in a pool of his own blood, got acquitted. Read it here: http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22327028/st-paul-pay-30k-man-who-said-off?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com

The cop who violently kicked a suspect http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22327272/cop-kicking-video-minneapolis-prosecutors-review-st-paul

The Hastings cop that was always in trouble gets to work his final year at a desk to get better retirement http://www.startribune.com/local/south/186085781.html?refer=y

These are just a few examples from recent memory.  And these are the only ones that made it to the papers.  Think of all the instances that go unreported.

On the other hand, if someone messes with a cop, the cops unleash a dose of hell on the offender.  For example, the guy that created a phony facebook page about a cop is looking at felony charges http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22332064/west-st-paul-man-faked-deputys-facebook-page

I am sure the cops will ease up on the abuse once they have all our guns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>I am surprised this is news.  This type of police misconduct happens all the time.  Many cops are bullies that feel they got mistreated as kids and now are going to get even with the world.  They know they are never going to be held to the same laws that they claim to enforce.  </p>
<p>Examples?</p>
<p>The cops that violated the data privacy laws got a verbal warning.  </p>
<p>The cop that was left alone in a cell with a man that was arrested with his step daughter and after leaving the cell, the handcuffed man was laying in a pool of his own blood, got acquitted. Read it here: <a href="http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22327028/st-paul-pay-30k-man-who-said-off?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com">http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22327028/st-paul-pay-30k-man-who-said-off?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com</a></p>
<p>The cop who violently kicked a suspect <a href="http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22327272/cop-kicking-video-minneapolis-prosecutors-review-st-paul">http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22327272/cop-kicking-video-minneapolis-prosecutors-review-st-paul</a></p>
<p>The Hastings cop that was always in trouble gets to work his final year at a desk to get better retirement <a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/south/186085781.html?refer=y">http://www.startribune.com/local/south/186085781.html?refer=y</a></p>
<p>These are just a few examples from recent memory.  And these are the only ones that made it to the papers.  Think of all the instances that go unreported.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if someone messes with a cop, the cops unleash a dose of hell on the offender.  For example, the guy that created a phony facebook page about a cop is looking at felony charges <a href="http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22332064/west-st-paul-man-faked-deputys-facebook-page">http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22332064/west-st-paul-man-faked-deputys-facebook-page</a></p>
<p>I am sure the cops will ease up on the abuse once they have all our guns.</p>
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		<title>By: Chapter&#38;Verse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chapter&#38;Verse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Law enforcement conduct when it envolves bystanders of a police action and/or someone simply walking down the sidewalk is a huge topic of discussion within the criminal law community. In 2008 the FISA bill was signed into law by GWB. Ever since our 4th Amendment rights have severely eroded. As a result law enforcement conduct is evolving into what  some believe is bordering on a police state.

The above article is but one example of how things are changing. If one is to dig just a little using the search term &quot;4th Amendment cases&quot; in a google search you end up with over 1.8MM hits. Read some of the articles and you&#039;ll find that this incident is very mild in comparison to other police actions - &quot;stop and frisk&quot; in NYC for example.

Did you know that totally innocent, law abiding citizens&#039; coming and goings are tracked today in Minneapolis via &quot;automatic license plate scanners?&quot; Yes, YOU (your vehicle) are in a database in MPLS, where you parked, what street you drove on, etc., is kept in that database for who knows how long and for what reasons just because law enforcement can do it.

We need law enforcement to keep a civil society. We also need to defend our constitutional rights as citizens. Interesting times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Law enforcement conduct when it envolves bystanders of a police action and/or someone simply walking down the sidewalk is a huge topic of discussion within the criminal law community. In 2008 the FISA bill was signed into law by GWB. Ever since our 4th Amendment rights have severely eroded. As a result law enforcement conduct is evolving into what  some believe is bordering on a police state.</p>
<p>The above article is but one example of how things are changing. If one is to dig just a little using the search term &#8220;4th Amendment cases&#8221; in a google search you end up with over 1.8MM hits. Read some of the articles and you&#8217;ll find that this incident is very mild in comparison to other police actions &#8211; &#8220;stop and frisk&#8221; in NYC for example.</p>
<p>Did you know that totally innocent, law abiding citizens&#8217; coming and goings are tracked today in Minneapolis via &#8220;automatic license plate scanners?&#8221; Yes, YOU (your vehicle) are in a database in MPLS, where you parked, what street you drove on, etc., is kept in that database for who knows how long and for what reasons just because law enforcement can do it.</p>
<p>We need law enforcement to keep a civil society. We also need to defend our constitutional rights as citizens. Interesting times.</p>
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