We recently talked about corporal punishment after a bus driver slapped an unruly child on his route and some people defended him while the majority said he was out of line considering his job. Well, you may have heard the story of the 60 year old Idaho resident who slapped a two year old on a Delta flight from MSP airport. Well, it appears he has lost his job as his company doesn’t tolerate that sort of behavior from its employees.
Let’s ignore the claims of the child’s parents that the Idaho man used a racial slur and concentrate on the fact that a stranger felt the need to punish another person’s child for screaming on a plane. A recent new commenter on the bus driver thread posted the comment below (I have not yet verified their e-mail address however):
Sorry that corporal punishment is frowned upon and law makers have made it a crime. The little unruly kids need to be spanked, slapped or popped. I was and I am no worse for it. Did not turn into a monster nor did I brutalize my son but if he got out of line with me, he got spanked or popped in the mouth for it and he is a model citizen. Not using corporal punishment now a days is to the detriment because the little bastards feel this is the way to behave and they grow up into nasty, unruly, no respect adults. When I was growing up, never saw too much of kids acting up, being rude and disrespectful because your parents were called and you got your butt spanked. And if you spoke back to your parents or any adult and your parents heard about it, you got popped in the mouth. Now its normal for kids to be unruly and outta control. And that stupid TIME OUT crap crap does not work. When you tell a child to stop being rude, outta control, etc. And she or he continues, his/her butt needs to be spanked..plain and simple. Kids today have gotten worse since this “don’t hit kids” thing. If you popped them more often they would be better behaved people.
Even if the two year old on the flight was truly unruly, I am not sure the Idaho man was going to solve any problems in the short or long term by “popping” the child as he did. I was spanked (infrequently) as a child and am no worse for wear but I currently choose not to use corporal punishment on my children mostly because I am able to control them in other ways, including very effective use of timeouts which are in direct disagreement with the comments above. Now, whether or not this will work into the future, with The Koala, or if it works with The Rooster because of his personality, age, or the fact that he is a product of no daycare, I don’t know. However, for now, I will continue to avoid using corporal punishment until the time I feel it is necessary to do so.
This all said, the use of timeouts are even frowned upon in our society. The Rooster was at Target with me and he refused to say thank you or hello to the cashier, I forget which, after they talked to him. I have asked him many times to be polite when spoken to. As a result, he went to timeout right there in Target, against the nearest wall until he would respond. A woman waiting to checkout asked me in an accusatory tone if that was really necessary. While I had choice words for her own parenting based on what she was putting into her cart, I felt it most definitely was necessary; I am not going to raise a rude child who is uncontrollable. The fact that people feel like the safe and politically correct alternative to corporal punishment is now socially unacceptable is scary. What do we do next, simply put up with a society of children who rule the world because it’s mean to put them in timeout?
Do you approve of either timeouts or corporal punishment? Do you have any qualms in telling a child (or their parents) to calm down? Would you provide your own form of punishment to a child who was not your own? How much does age factor into the equation? Do you think a two year old on an airplane should be “popped”? Whatever you have to say about this one go ahead and comment on as I’d love to hear your thoughts.