Months ago, the Apple Valley City Council asked the Parks and Recreation Committee to come up with three possible names for the new Apple Valley Senior Center. The committee took it to the seniors and they did exactly as the City Council members instructed. Tonight they presented those three names to the council and after arguing back and forth for entirely too long, they were overruled by a majority of the city council and another name came out all together.
Instead of writing a big long narrative, I’m going to post my notes as I wrote them while watching the city council meeting. It’s not perfect but it’ll probably be better than anything I could have written up otherwise:
15% (14.8%) of population voted for a $15 million referendum which didn’t specifically state the “Senior Center” on a bond issue ballot
$250,000 added into budget a year to cover the costs of something named only for seniors
50 year olds and 60 year olds she spoke with earlier don’t feel that it’s “inclusive” when you call it a senior center
Wants a name that’s more inclusive
It’s always been called the Senior Center in minutes and other discussions
Parks and Rec came up with a brochure that talked about a senior center
General language is what’s on the bond issue ballot
“Words matter” and “they matter very very much”
It’s not right to put something out there about “Senior Center” and then talk about changing the name later
Will taxes go down if it’s rented more or less? He doesn’t think so.
Goes on a rant about AV Liquor and how citizens are upset that the city is closing in on private businesses
Private businesses have rooms that are similar to what’s available elsewhere (Legion, Old Chicago)
Goes on another tangent about how it’ll be available when other places are not because they are booked out a year and a half in advance.
Honesty in government…”people don’t want to be misled”. Has to wonder if they named it something else if it would have even passed.
We already have two community centers. You could take a rock and hit one from the AV Senior Center.
Not a lot of voters, but people had a choice to vote and those that did chose to go with it.
I think it’s a bad way to do business and I think that if it were to change it would be unfair to the citizens
Parking was always an issue and she claims she was assured it wouldn’t be an issue
Park and Rec issues are polarized and should be on cable so the community can see it
Needs to be more transparent to the community
300 families in Apple Valley have lost their homes due to foreclosure.
15% of people knew they were voting to raise taxes in 2007. This is 2009 though.
2000 people looking for jobs in AV
Tsunami of “over 55 year olds” who are going to actively participate in activities in the buildings.
- the tsunami has changed due to people postponing their retirement
11,000 people in AV over 55
She sees it as a financial partial decision and things do change
They have to rent the facility
Hayes Community and Senior Center (marketing)
Cannot find a building that will seat 250 people
14.8% voted but the remaining 85% also have to bear the burden of the tax increase
Farmington’s Senior Center is called “Rambling River”
Prior Lake is called “Laker Place”
Needs to have another name.
Very upset that he was going to have a stigma because he was the councilmember who wanted to move the senior center.
AV Liquor store is sitting at 5 million dollars which is supported only by liquor store customers while the Senior Center directly costs taxpayers’ dollars.
Trying to keep the operating costs down by changing the name
Names provided by the Parks and Rec committee at the request of the city council:
1. Apple Valley Senior Center
2. Apple Valley Senior and Event Center
3. Hayes Senior Center
We have to come up with revenue sources that will be less burdensome on our taxpayers
Believes they need to be credible to make their decision based on what was told during the process
Apple Valley Senior and Event Center (second choice, not the first choice)
Her first choice would be the Apple Valley Senior Center but she thinks that while the the senior’s opinions are important, the rest of the council’s opinions are very important as well
Some City Council members asked the committee come up with names and they did so. Now they are going back on that and want to come up with a name on their own?
We’re not going to solve the economic woes of US, Minnesota, and AV by having a few additional rental charges in the building.
“You can ignore the charge but please don’t pretend that this name came from the Parks and Rec Committee.”
Calls the question after claiming they have spent more time on this issue than a $35 million budget
We never do anything but Robert’s Rules–never have, never will.
After much back and forth and many failed motions, the one that finally won out was nothing at all like the Parks and Rec Committee presented and certainly not what the majority of seniors wanted. The name that won out in the end was “Hayes Community and Senior Center” solely due to the fact that the majority of the Apple Valley City Council felt that this name would gain more revenue because of the negative connotations that come with moniker which includes “senior”.
My question to you tonight is simple. Was the City Council’s decision to ignore the senior citizens’ unanimous decision to have the name be the “Apple Valley Senior Center” a good one? Was it fair that not only did they ignore the decision of the seniors but that they went off and came up with a completely different name than the three that were provided by request of the council itself?
Go ahead and comment on, I am very interested in hearing what you have to say about this one.